Rom 1:3
(KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Mary was the young virgin chosen by God to bear the child Jesus, whose Spirit is of The begotten Son, whose going forths have been from old from everlasting...and Joseph, from David, from Judah, was Jesus's father in the flesh..fulfilling all prophecies concerning Christ Jesus.
Jesus shared in the same flesh and blood as his brethren so he could be tempted, tried and tested, overcome, and in THIS WAY become a truly sympathetic High Priest.
In
Hebrews 2:17 the Greek words translated as, “He had to be made like His brethren in all things,” is, “homoiootheénai hína pánta toís adelfoís.” The Greek word homoiootheénai means, “to be or become like.” The Greek word pánta (adverbially), means, “wholly, altogether, in all ways, in all things, in all respects,” as it is used in
Acts 20:35. Therefore Jesus the man was made to be like his brethren in all ways, in all respects, in all things, wholly and altogether.” There’s no doubt from this passages definitions that Jesus was conceived and born as part of the process used to insure he fulfills this description of him.
(exerpt from http://www.datehookup.com/Thread-291370-76.htm /
http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/conceived.htm)
We should not forget Jesus Christ as prophesied in the scripture will come from the descendants of David, from the Tribe of Judah.
Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Luk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Joseph fits this exact description, Mary doesn't. She came from the daughters of Aaron just as her cousin Elisabeth did.
Luk 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
Luk 1:36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.
Aaron does not belong to the Tribe of Judah. He is of the Levites,
Exo 4:14 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, Is not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart.
and Levites do not belong to any of the 12 Tribes of Israel.
Num 1:47 But the Levites after the tribe of their fathers were not numbered among them.
Num 1:48 For the LORD had spoken unto Moses, saying,
Num 1:49 Only thou shalt not number the tribe of Levi, neither take the sum of them among the children of Israel:
Mary, undoubtedly fits the prophesy as the virgin who shall conceive. She was a virgin, engaged to Joseph, when she conceived.
Luk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Divine Artificial Insemination.
(copied and edited from http://www.datehookup.com/Thread-291370-76.htm
http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/conceived.htm)
The human male reproductive cell, which is known as a sperm, is a motile cell with a head containing the nucleus and a whip like tail with which it swims. The human female reproductive cell, which is known as an egg or ovum, is a rounded cell many times larger than the sperm and containing large amounts of cytoplasm surrounding the nucleus.
The internal deposit of semen occurs in the process of copulation, also known as coitus or sexual intercourse. The male inserts the male genital organ, the penis, into the female genital orifice, the vagina, discharging the semen therein. This process is known as insemination.
Obviously God did not use copulation to produce the motile sperm cell thru insemination. Instead, in a haze of brilliancy His Holy Spirit surrounded Mary as He effortlessly inseminated Joseph's (the decendant of David from the tribe of Judah) male gamete cell within the fertile egg of this virgin woman.
Modern medical science has developed a method of insemination whereby both animal and human spermatozoa can be kept alive outside the body for long periods by freezing. Artificially introduced into the female reproductive tract, such spermatozoa produce pregnancy in a remarkably high percentage of healthy women. For many decades now the method, called artificial insemination, has been used successfully in many animal species, including human reproduction, to produce offspring where either the male or the female is sterile.
Should we think the Creator of the universe incapable of this Divine Artificial Insemination?
Why must we Christians conclude this event beyond reason when mere mortal humans have demonstrated skill and success with artificial insemination?
The human female normally has a 28-day reproductive or menstrual cycle, with ovulation usually occurring about 14 days before the onset of the menstruation. Menstruation is the periodic vaginal discharge in humans and other mammals, which consists of blood and cells shed from the endometrium, or lining of the uterus. Menstruation accompanies a woman's childbearing years, usually beginning between the ages of 10 and 16, at puberty, and most often ceasing between the ages of 45 and 50, at menopause. Menstruation is part of the process that prepares a woman for pregnancy. Each month the lining of the uterus thickens; if pregnancy does not occur, this lining breaks down and is discharged through the vagina. The three to seven days that menstruation lasts is called the menstrual period.
She was most likely between the ages of 16-18 and was in her childbearing years.In most women the menstrual cycle is about 28 days, but it can vary considerably even from one month to another. It was no big deal for God to determine the time of her menstrual cycle.
Hormones in her bloodstream initiate a woman’s menstrual cycle; these hormones stimulate the ovaries, which are the two female organs that produce the ova, aka eggs. Each month, hormones cause an egg in one of the two ovaries to mature and become capable of being fertilized and develop into a fetus. The ovaries also produce hormones of their own, primarily estrogen, which cause the endometrium to thicken. About midway through the menstrual cycle, 14 to 15 days before the next period, the ovary releases the mature egg in a process called ovulation. The egg passes through the Fallopian tube to the uterus. If the egg unites with a sperm on its way to the uterus, fertilization occurs and pregnancy ensues.
During Mary’s ovulation one of her ovary released a mature egg that passed through her Fallopian tube on its way to the uterus; at the instant this happened, God miraculously performed the Divine Artificial Insemination. God artificially inseminated Joseph's sperm cell ; fertilization occurred and the infant Jesus was procreated. This is the exact description of the scientific process that occurred.
So this is how I reconcile the processes used; The virgin Mary’s ovulation was normal and typical; her ovary released a mature egg, as it traveled down the Fallopian tube, God, by the power of The Holy Spirit, inseminated the egg by Divinely artificially inseminating the gamete cell from Joseph (seed of David, of Jeconiah, of Judah) that would unite with her fertile egg, making it now a fertilized egg, which then attached itself to the uterine wall, and the pregnancy began. This is how The child Jesus in the flesh as prophesied, whose Spirit is The Word of God, The begotten God, The Son of God from everlasting even before He entered the world, whose going forths have been from old, from everlasting, was conceived.
Mary was the young virgin chosen by God to bear the child Jesus, whose Spirit is of The begotten Son, whose going forths have been from old from everlasting...and Joseph, from David, from Judah, was Jesus's father in the flesh..fulfilling all prophecies concerning Christ Jesus.
If after all these you would still insist on the "NO MALE SEED WAS USED" Or the "MARY'S SEED ALONE" MYTH, THIS IS WHAT SCIENCE SAYS:
Uniparental disomy (UPD) occurs when a person receives two copies of a chromosome, or part of a chromosome, from one parent and no copies from the other parent.
Uniparental inheritance of imprinted genes can also result in phenotypical anomalies. Few imprinted genes have been identified, however uniparental inheritance of an imprinted gene can result in the loss of gene function which can lead to delayed development, mental retardation, or other medical problems.
Occasionally, all chromosomes will be inherited from one parent, due to either a sperm fertilizing an empty egg and duplicating itself, or a diploid egg that is not fertilized. The effect is similar to triploidy, with either a molar pregnancy with no embryo if only paternal genes are present, or an embryo with no placenta if only maternal genes are present. Neither condition ever results in a liveborn infant.
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Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Rom 1:3
(KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Act 2:30
(KJV) Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
Look at this curious admission: In Acts 2:30 it says that Messiah came from the fruit of David's loins according to the flesh -- that he was a flesh and blood descendent of David through Joseph
Obviously Peter did not believe that (according to Peter's testimony). The Holy Spirit, "the Lord, the giver of Life", is sent to divinely fecundate Mary.
Even Peter is not a fan of "Mary's Seed Alone" Fable!
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Other refuted arguments raised by Catholics using the scripture to defend this shall we say "Mary's seed alone" fable :
1. The Census Argument
Luke 2
1In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world.
2(This was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria.)
3And everyone went to his own town to register.
4So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David.
5He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child.
" ...So since Joseph went to register with Mary only implies that Mary will also register herself there because she herself also belonged to the house and line of David."-catholic
Facts:
Mary came from the daughters of Aaron just as her cousin Elisabeth did.
Luk 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
Luk 1:36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.
Aaron does not belong to the Tribe of Judah. He is of the Levites,
Exo 4:14 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, Is not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart.
and Levites do not belong to any of the 12 Tribes of Israel.
Num 1:47 But the Levites after the tribe of their fathers were not numbered among them.
Num 1:48 For the LORD had spoken unto Moses, saying,
Num 1:49 Only thou shalt not number the tribe of Levi, neither take the sum of them among the children of Israel:
Women were generally held to be minors in Roman law they were not allowed to vote or run for political office, and could not hold rights to property. A married woman generally fell under the guardianship of her husband (or his pater familias).
2. Jeconiah's line cursed argument.
"Joseph didn't have any semen contribution in the flesh of Jesus, the main reasoning being the Jeconiah's line is cursed by God, Jer. 22:30. Thus, disqualifying his descendants to the throne".-catholic
Fact:
Jeconiah repented and so God reversed the curse.
http://jewsforjesus.org/answers/prophecy/jeconiah
According to the genealogy in
Matthew 1:12, Jesus is a descendant of Jeconiah. But Jeconiah was cursed in
Jeremiah 22:24 and
22:30:
"As surely as I live," declares the LORD, "even if you, Jehoiachin son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, were a signet ring on my right hand, I would still pull you off.
This is what the LORD says: "Record this man as if childless, a man who will not prosper in his lifetime, for none of his offspring will prosper, none will sit on the throne of David or rule any more in Judah."
Since no descendant of Jeconiah could ever sit on the throne, if Jesus is a descendant of this cursed king, he is disqualified from being the Messiah.
If true, then what is Jeconiah doing in the genealogy of Jesus in Matthew's gospel? And how can Jesus qualify to be the Messiah? First of all, we have to wonder why Matthew would ever have included Jeconiah among the ancestors of Jesus if this so obviously disqualified Jesus from being the Messiah. In fact, the Scripture shows that the curse was only short-term, if not altogether reversed by God.
There are three parts to the curse on Jeconiah (who is also called Jehoiachin or Coniah):
- that he would be childless (this is how the Hebrew text literally reads)
- that he would not prosper in his lifetime
- that none of his descendants would rule in Judah
The Scripture shows that in fact none of these took place.
- Though the Hebrew literally reads, "Record this man childless," Jeconiah in fact had children.
The descendants of Jehoiachin the captive: Shealtiel his son, Malkiram, Pedaiah, Shenazzar, Jekamiah, Hoshama and Nedabiah
-- 1 Chronicles 3:17-18
- He did prosper in his day.
In the thirty-seventh year of the exile of Jehoiachin king of Judah, in the year Evil-Merodach became king of Babylon, he released Jehoiachin from prison on the twenty-seventh day of the twelfth month. He spoke kindly to him and gave him a seat of honour higher than those of the other kings who were with him in Babylon.
-- 2 Kings 25:27-28
- His grandson Zerubbabel prospered and ruled. In fact the same words God used in rejecting Jeconiah were deliberately used in establishing Zerubbabel.
"As surely as I live," declares the LORD, "even if you, Jehoiachin son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, were a signet ring on my right hand, I would still pull you off.
-- Jeremiah 22:24
"'On that day,' declares the LORD Almighty, 'I will take you, my servant Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel,' declares the LORD, 'and I will make you like my signet ring, for I have chosen you,' declares the LORD Almighty."
-- Haggai 2:23
Though Zerubbabel did not sit on the throne as king, the fact that
Haggai 2:23 uses the same terminology as
Jeremiah 22:24 shows that Haggai intended to indicate a reversal of the curse.
We have to conclude that in
Jeremiah 22:30, "in his lifetime" qualifies the following phrases, and "for" explains that no descendant of his will prosper and rule during his lifetime.
Sources stating that the Messiah will descend from Jeconiah.
NIV Zechariah 4:7 “Whata are you, O mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’ ”
Zerubbabel descended from Jeconiah NOT from Neri , Shealthiel is son of Jeconiah NOT son of Neri as was written in Luke 3genealogy!
Jewish Encyclopedia
Jehoiachin's sad experiences changed his nature entirely, and as he repented of the sins which he had committed as king he was pardoned by God, who revoked the decree to the effect that none of his descendants should ever become king (Jer. xxii.30; Pesik., ed. Buber, xxv. 163a, b): he even became the ancestor of the Messiah (Tan., Toledot, 20 [ed. Buber, i. 140]).
--Louis Ginzberg, "Jehoiachin," vol. 7 p. 84.
3. Luke3 Genealogy
genealogy of Mary (Davidic descent of Mary)-catholics
Fact:
Even if the Luke 3 genealogy could somehow be twisted into a genealogy of Mary, the Messiah must also descend from David's son Solomon.:
1 Chron 28:5-7
And of all my sons, (for the LORD hath given me many sons,) he hath chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the kingdom of the LORD over Israel.
And he said unto me, Solomon thy son, he shall build my house and my courts: for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father.
Moreover I will establish his(Solomon's) kingdom for ever, if he be constant to do my commandments and my judgments, as at this day.
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The
Luke 3 genealogy passes through
Nathan and not Solomon, rendering it an invalid vehicle to produce a valid king Messiah.
source:http://www.geocities.com/b_r_a_d_99/genealogy1.htm...Rendering Mary's Seed Alone Fable...
invalid.
But really, even if we scrap all that, Mary actually came from Aaron just as her cousin Elisabeth did. Not from the tribe of Judah.
Scripture further supports that Jesus could not have come from the descendants of Aaron, because Aaron is a Levite (Priests)
Heli, (father of Mary, father in law of Joseph) who was written as father of Joseph instead of Jacob in Luke3 genealogy, is a Priest!
1 Samuel 14:3 And Achias the son of Achitob brother to Ichabod the son of Phinees, the son of Heli the priest of the Lord in Silo, wore the ephod. And the people knew not whither Jonathan was gone.
STILL INVALID!
Quote:
Heb 7:14
(KJV) For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
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Joseph is the fruit of the loins of David, from the tribe of Judah.. Mary is the blessed virgin who conceived Christ Jesus,The WORD OF GOD, THE SON OF GOD from everlasting, son of Joseph in the flesh, through the Power of The Holy Spirit. And that's the real story.
4. Solomon disqualified
Solomon was disqualified making Nathan the valid descendant of Jesus through Mary-catholics
LIE!!!!
Ang haring Salomon nga ay sumisinta sa maraming babaing taga ibang lupa na pati sa anak ni Faraon, mga babaing Moabita, Ammonita, Idumea, Sidonia, at Hethea;
1Ki 11:3 At siya'y nagkaroon ng pitong daang asawa, na mga prinsesa, at tatlong daang babae: at
iniligaw ng kaniyang mga asawa ang kaniyang puso.
1Ki 11:4 Sapagka't nangyari, nang si Salomon ay matanda na, iniligaw ng kaniyang mga asawa ang kaniyang puso sa ibang mga dios: at ang kaniyang puso ay hindi naging sakdal sa Panginoon niyang Dios, na gaya ng puso ni David na kaniyang ama.
1Ki 11:11 Kaya't sinabi ng Panginoon kay Salomon, Yamang ito'y nagawa mo, at hindi mo iningatan ang aking tipan, at ang aking mga palatuntunan na aking iniutos sa iyo, walang pagsalang aking aagawin ang kaharian sa iyo, at aking ibibigay sa iyong lingkod.
1Ki 11:12 Gayon ma'y sa iyong mga kaarawan ay hindi ko gagawin alangalang kay David na iyong ama: kundi sa kamay ng iyong anak aking aagawin.
1Ki 11:23 At ipinagbangon ng Dios si Salomon ng ibang kaaway, na si Rezon na anak ni Eliada, na tumakas sa kaniyang panginoong kay Adadezer na hari sa Soba:
1Ki 11:24 At siya'y nagpisan ng mga lalake, at naging puno sa isang hukbo, nang patayin ni David ang mga taga Soba; at sila'y nagsiparoon sa Damasco, at tumahan doon, at naghari sa Damasco.
1Ki 11:25 At siya'y naging kaaway ng Israel sa lahat ng kaarawan ni Salomon, bukod pa sa ligalig na ginawa ni Adad: at kaniyang kinapootan ang Israel, at naghari sa Siria.
1Ki 11:31 At kaniyang sinabi kay Jeroboam,
Kunin mo sa iyo ang sangpung putol: sapagka't ganito ang sabi ng Panginoon, ng Dios ng Israel, Narito, aking aagawin ang kaharian sa kamay ni Salomon, at ibibigay ko ang sangpung lipi sa iyo:
(1Ki 11:31 And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces: for thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee )
1Ki 11:32 (Nguni't mapapasa kaniya ang isang lipi dahil sa aking lingkod na si David, at dahil sa Jerusalem, na bayan na aking pinili sa lahat ng mga lipi ng Israel )
1Ki 11:32 (But he shall have one tribe for my servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel )
Quote:
1Ki 11:29 And it came to pass at that time when Jeroboam went out of Jerusalem, that the prophet Ahijah the Shilonite found him in the way; and he had clad himself with a new garment; and they two were alone in the field:
1Ki 11:30 And Ahijah caught the new garment that was on him, and rent it in twelve pieces:
1Ki 11:31 And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces: for thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee:
1Ki 11:32 (But he shall have one tribe for my servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel
1Ki 11:33 Because that they have forsaken me, and have worshipped Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, Chemosh the god of the Moabites, and Milcom the god of the children of Ammon, and have not walked in my ways, to do that which is right in mine eyes, and to keep my statutes and my judgments, as did David his father.
1Ki 11:34 Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant's sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes:
1Ki 11:35 But I will take the kingdom out of his son's hand, and will give it unto thee, even ten tribes.
1Ki 11:36 And unto his son will I give one tribe, that David my servant may have a light alway before me in Jerusalem, the city which I have chosen me to put my name there.
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at sinamba si Astaroth na diosa ng mga Sidonio, si Chemos na dios ng Moab, at si Milcom na dios ng mga anak ni Ammon; at sila'y hindi nagsilakad sa aking mga daan upang gawin ang matuwid sa aking paningin, at upang ingatan ang aking mga palatuntunan at ang aking mga kahatulan, na gaya ng ginawa ni David na kaniyang ama.
1Ki 11:34 Gayon ma'y hindi ko kukunin ang buong kaharian sa kaniyang kamay: kundi aking gagawin siyang prinsipe sa lahat ng kaarawan ng kaniyang buhay, dahil kay David na aking lingkod na aking pinili, sapagka't kaniyang iningatan ang aking mga utos, at ang aking mga palatuntunan:
(1Ki 11:34 Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant's sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes: )
1Ki 11:35 Kundi aking kukunin ang kaharian sa kamay ng kaniyang anak, at ibibigay ko sa iyo, sa makatuwid baga'y
ang sangpung lipi.
1Ki 11:36 At sa kaniyang anak, ay ibibigay ko ang isang lipi upang si David na aking lingkod ay magkaroon ng ilawan magpakailan man sa harap ko sa Jerusalem, na bayang aking pinili upang ilagay ang aking pangalan doon.
(1Ki 11:36 And unto his son will I give one tribe, that David my servant may have a light alway before me in Jerusalem, the city which I have chosen me to put my name there.)
1Ki 11:39 At dahil dito'y aking pipighatiin ang binhi ni David, nguni't hindi magpakailan man.
(1Ki 11:39 And I will for this afflict the seed of David, but not for ever)
GOD SAID HE WILL AFFLICT THE SEED OF DAVID BUT NOT FOREVER!
SOLOMON , SON OF DAVID, IS THE DESCENDANT OF JOSEPH!
TRUE AND FAITHFUL TO HIS OATH
IT IS THROUGH SOLOMON THAT GOD FULFILLED THE PROPHESY! NOT THROUGH NATHAN!
1 Chron 28:5-7 And of all my sons, (for the LORD hath given me many
sons,) he hath chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the
kingdom of the LORD over Israel. And he said unto me, Solomon thy son,
he shall build my house and my courts: for I have chosen him to be my
son, and I will be his father. Moreover I will establish his
kingdom for ever, if he be constant to do my commandments and my
judgments, as at this day.
- Let Us Not Forget The Oath God made To David regarding Solomon:
2Sa 7:12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
2Sa 7:13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
2Sa 7:14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
2Sa 7:15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
2Sa 7:16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.
- Though Solomon, committed iniquities,
Remember God hath said:
2Sa 7:14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
2Sa 7:15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
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The Prophecies And Scriptural proofs concerning the Prophecies of the Birth of The True Messiah are:
1. Jesus will be born from a virgin.
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
THIS ONE PROPHESY IS FULFILLED IN THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY.
THE REST IN JOSEPH!
2.the Messiah will descend from Jeconiah and Zerubbabel
NIV Zechariah 4:7 “Whata are you, O mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’
From Jeconiah because Zerubbabel is Son of Sealthiel and Sealthiel is Son Of Jeconiah.
(Not Neri according to Luke3)
3.the Messiah will come from the tribe of Judah.
Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
4.The Christ will come from the seed (according to the flesh! from the fruit of his body! from the fruit of his loins according to the flesh!) of David.
Psalm 89:4 I will establish your seed forever And build up your throne to all generations." Selah.
Psalm 132:11 The LORD has sworn to David A truth from which He will not turn back: "Of the fruit of your body I will set upon your throne.
Joseph is from the fruit of the body of David according to Scripture.
Nowhere in Scripture was it mentioned that Mary is seed of David!
Luk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Luk 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David )
Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David,
Rom 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Act 2:30
(KJV) Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him,that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
5. The Messiah must also descend from David's son Solomon.
1 Chron 28:5-7 And of all my sons, (for the LORD hath given me many sons,) he hath chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the kingdom of the LORD over Israel.
And he said unto me, Solomon thy son, he shall build my house and my courts: for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father.
Moreover I will establish his(Solomon's) kingdom for ever, if he be constant to do my commandments and my judgments, as at this day.
6. The Messiah sprang from Judah, of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Heb 7:14
(KJV) For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
7. The Messiah took the seed of Abraham, nature of man, He was made to be like his brethren in all ways, in all respects, in all things, wholly and altogether
Heb 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
the Greek words translated as, “He had to be made like His brethren in all things,” is, “homoiootheénai hína pánta toís adelfoís.” The Greek word homoiootheénai means, “to be or become like.” The Greek word pánta (adverbially), means, “wholly, altogether, in all ways, in all things, in all respects,”
Acts 20:35. Therefore Jesus the man was made to be like his brethren in all ways, in all respects, in all things, wholly and altogether.”
Mary was the fulfilment of the Virgin prophesied to bear the child Jesus Messiah in the flesh.
Joseph is the fulfillment of the person from whom the "seed" of the flesh of the True Messiah would come.
Every seed comes from the loins of Men NOT FROM WOMEN!
Gen 35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;
Exo 1:5 And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already.
Heb 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
Heb 7:10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.
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Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Overshadow
ἐπισκιάζω
episkiazō
ep-ee-skee-ad'-zo
to cast a shade upon, that is, (by analogy) to envelop in a haze of brilliancy; figuratively to invest with preternatural influence: - overshadow.
Just Like:
Act 5:15 Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them.
"By the way, Did you Know that Mary's parents (as catholics claim) St. Anne and her husband Joachim and their story is not even found in the Bible? They are just catholic Myths!
One that can be thrown out of the window with their Mary's Seed Alone Fable as well! Oh, and sometimes they would also say, Mary is Heli's daughter! ( But in the Bible , the only Heli is Heli, The priest in Shiloh who does not have a daughter! who has two sons Hophni and Phinehas,,both do not know The Lord. -1 Samuel 1,2,3,4 and 1 Kings 2:27 )
Try asking them about this and they will simply direct you to their Catholic Mythology Site!"
The blessed virgin who is Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ in the flesh, as Joseph was his father also in the flesh.
Jesus Christ, before He came into the world is The WORD OF GOD, The WISDOM and The Power of GOD IS THE SON OF GOD already, from old, from everlasting, who was made flesh and lived among us.
Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Joh 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
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1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
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Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters,
and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT SINCE THE PROPHECIES CONCERNING THE BIRTH OF THE TRUE MESSIAH WERE NOT FULFILLED IN THE CHRIST WHICH CATHOLICS LEAD ALL CHRISTIANS TO BELIEVE ... THAT CHRIST IS A FALSE CHRIST! AND THEY HAVE DECEIVED EVERYONE OF THEM WHO BELIEVED IN THEIR FALSE CHRIST!
WHY would the Bible be called The Scripture of Truth if The Truth Is NOT WRITTEN IN IT?
Why would God Ask The Prophets and The Saints to write The Holy Scripture if it wasn't meant to be Understood?
The Scripture was meant to Save people by giving them The Knowledge of Truth. The Scripture was meant to Shine The Light To All!...NOT LEAVE PEOPLE OUT IN THE DARK! (LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO PEOPLE! Encouraging them to remain indolent Without understanding, without Truth, without reason!...LIKE THEIR MYSTERY "MARY'S SEED ONLY" CRAP!)
GOD WILLS ALL MEN TO BE SAVED AND TO COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH!
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
THE SCRIPTURE IS THE BOOK OF TRUTH. IT'S ALL THERE!
Isaiah 34:16 Seek from the book of the LORD, and read: Not one of these will be missing; None will lack its mate. For His mouth has commanded, And His Spirit has gathered them.
BUT PEOPLE WITH SPIRITS LIKE THEIRS WANT GOD'S PEOPLE TO BE DESTROYED!
Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
People Listen! Do not Believe Those who call "Mystery" what they could not explain from the Scripture!
What Mystery?!?
By reading the Scripture and believing in it, all is understood!
There is No More Mystery!
WHAT THEY CALL MYSTERY ARE ONLY LIES WHICH THEY HAVE DEVISED TO TURN GOD'S PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE TRUTH!
Eph 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
Eph 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Eph 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, asit is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Jesus came in the flesh when he entered the world and took the form of man.
But in the beginning He was in the form of God.
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Christ was already Son of God before he took the form of man.
And there is a great reason why he had to take on the nature of a seed of Abraham:
- Heb 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
- Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
- Heb 2:18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
- Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
But now, knowing that He sits at the Right of The Father, we shouldn't look upon Him in the flesh anymore, but as the Begotten God he always was and always will be.
2Co 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
I fear that Unless we accept that Jesus came in the flesh, from the fruit of the body of David through his earthly father Joseph, conceived by his earthly mother, the blessed virgin Mary (without copulation! but by some Divine and Perfect Method Brilliantly executed through the Holy Spirit by The Power of HIS ETERNAL FATHER!)
bearing in mind that all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophets
--- then we are not in Truth.
Accepting this Truth is not rejecting that Jesus Christ is Son of God, is The WORD of God, Was with God and Was God before he took the form of man, before he was made flesh.
Accepting this Truth is accepting and believing the prophecies concerning the True Messiah.
It is foolishness to think that it still had to take a mortal woman for The Eternal Father to Beget His Eternal Son !
When In Fact The Son of God WAS ALREADY Begotten By God In Eternity even before he was made flesh!
FROM TIME EVERLASTING, BEFORE THE WORLD WAS, HE WAS BROUGHT FORTH! HE ALREADY WAS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD!
He is THE WORD, He is THE WISDOM ! (John 1, Proverbs 8)
Before the earth was, He was brought forth! --- Begotten by God!--his goings forth have been from old, from everlasting.(Micah 5:2) That is why He is called The Only Begotten Son of God!
Jesus Christ came in the world as a mortal human, whose mortal parents were Mary and Joseph, through a Divine and Perfect Intervention, Brilliantly done By the power of The Highest through the Holy Spirit---a conception made possible without copulation -- to fulfill the prophecies spoken through the prophets...my guess is, some Divine and Perfect Artificial Insemination)
If you agree with those who say that
believing Jesus Christ came in the flesh ------is denying His Divinity....This is what The Holy Scripture says:
- 1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
- 2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
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Why Deny The Harmony of Science Facts and Holy Scripture?
source:
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencebible.html#xTk21KX9JTGW
The Bible and Science
Scientific Principle
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Cosmology/Astronomy
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Time had a beginning
| 2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2, 1 Corinthians 2:72
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The universe had a beginning
| Genesis 1:1, 2:4, Isaiah 42:5, etc.3
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The universe was created from the invisible
| Hebrews 11:34
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The dimensions of the universe were created
| Romans 8:38-395
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The universe is expanding
| Job 9:8, Psalm 104:2, Isaiah 40:22, Isaiah 42:5, Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 45:12, Isaiah 48:13, Isaiah 51:13, Jeremiah 10:12, Jeremiah 51:15, Zechariah 12:16
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Creation of matter and energy has ended in the universe (refutes steady-state theory)
| Genesis 2:3-47
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The universe is winding down and will "wear out" (second law of thermodynamics ensures that the universe will run down due to "heat death"-maximum entropy)
| Psalm 102:25-278
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Describes the correct order of creation
| Genesis 1 (see Day-Age Genesis One Interpretation)
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Number of stars exceeds a billion
| Genesis 22:17, Jeremiah 33:229
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Every star is different
| 1 Corinthians 15:4110
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Pleiades and Orion as gravitationally bound star groups
| Job 38:3111
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Light is in motion
| Job 38:19-2012
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The earth is controlled by the heavens
| Job 38:331
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Earth is a sphere
| Isaiah 40:2213 Job 26:1014
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At any time, there is day and night on the Earth
| Luke 17:34-3515
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Earth is suspended in space
| Job 26:716
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Earth Sciences
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Earth began as a waterworld. Formation of continents by tectonic activity described
| Genesis 1:2-9, Psalm 104:6-9, Proverbs 3:19, Proverbs 8:27-29, Job 38:4-8, 2 Peter 3:517
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Water cycle described
| Ecclesiastes 1:7; Isaiah 55:10, Job 36:27-2818
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Valleys exist on the bottom of the sea
| 2 Samuel 22:1619
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Vents exist on the bottom of the sea
| Job 38:1620
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Ocean currents in the sea
| Psalm 8:821
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Air has weight
| Job 28:2522
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Winds blow in circular paths
| Ecclesiastes 1:623
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Biology
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The chemical nature of human life unique genetic code in each DNA molecule that controls the reproduction process
| Genesis 2:7, 3:1924 Genesis 1:11-12,
1 Corinthians 15:38, James 3:12
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Life of creatures are in the blood
| Leviticus 17:1125
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The nature of infectious diseases
| Leviticus 13:4626
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Importance of sanitation to health
| Numbers 19, Deuteronomy 23:12-13, Leviticus 7-92
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- Virgin Birth ---------------------------Divine and Perfect Artficial Insemination
The misunderstanding only lies in the hearts and minds of everyone whom they have blinded, mysteriously seduced for ages to believe and to rest their faith in Lies instead of SEEING THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE TRUTH IN THE SCRIPTURE!
A Prophetic Parable of The Cooking Pot
Again in the ninth year, in the tenth month, in the tenth day of the month, the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
write thee the name of the day, even of this same day: the king of Babylon set himself against Jerusalem this same day.
utter a parable unto the rebellious house, and say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Set on a pot, set it on, and also pour water into it:
Gather the pieces thereof into it, even every good piece, the thigh, and the shoulder; fill it with the choice bones.
Take the choice of the flock, and burn also the bones under it, and make it boil well, and let them seethe the bones of it therein.
Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the bloody city, to the pot whose scum is therein, and whose scum is not gone out of it! bring it out piece by piece; let no lot fall upon it.
For her blood is in the midst of her; she set it upon the top of a rock; she poured it not upon the ground, to cover it with dust;
That it might cause fury to come up to take vengeance; I have set her blood upon the top of a rock, that it should not be covered.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the bloody city! I will even make the pile for fire great.
Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned.
Then set it empty upon the coals thereof, that the brass of it may be hot, and may burn, and that the filthiness of it may be molten in it, that the scum of it may be consumed.
She hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not forth out of her: her scum shall be in the fire.
In thy filthiness is lewdness: because I have purged thee, and thou wast not purged, thou shalt not be purged from thy filthiness any more, till I have caused my fury to rest upon thee.
I the LORD have spoken it: it shall come to pass, and I will do it; I will not go back, neither will I spare, neither will I repent; according to thy ways, and according to thy doings, shall they judge thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Rom 16:27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. Written to the Romans from Corinthus, and sent by Phebe servant of the church at Cenchrea.
